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From trash to treasure

Gavin Turk has a new take on tapestry. He tells Clare Dwyer Hogg why it's not just rubbish

Gavin Turk casts black bin bags filled with rubbish in bronze, and then he paints over them to make them look like black bin bags filled with rubbish. He takes an old polystyrene cup and casts it in metal, and then paints it to look like an old polystyrene cup. When Elton John asked him to design a bar that would be auctioned off for the singer's Aids charity last month, he made it out off rubbish: old driftwood, bits and pieces, nothing sleek or polished. Gavin Turk is interested in rubbish. So it takes something of a philosophical jump to consider his latest project: a tapestry.

In his studio, the cacophony of sounds - the clattering of industrial tools, the banter of various assistants wielding them, loud music - could not be further from what you might imagine to be the right atmosphere for weaving. Turk, sitting in a little sectioned-off area of his studio, grins. “I hadn't been progressing my work towards the idea of making a tapestry,” he says. But the art world works in mysterious ways, and when he was one of 15 artists - other include Grayson Perry and Peter Blake - approached to make a tapestry, he rose to the challenge.

It should come as no surprise then, that the subject matter of Turks´ tapestry is not your usual tapestry fodder (if there is such a thing). “ in my mind, I was thinking of Hampton Court,” he says, “ and so I had to think how tapestry would make sense for me; be relevant for me.” his inspiration came from Alighiero e Boetti, an Italian artists prominent in the 60s, and was fascinated by symbols, and created an embroidery of the world map, which each country made from its own flag. Gavin Turk's Mappa del Mudo is created from detritus he collected from the street - crisp packets, drinks cans, cigarette packets – that were squashed and rendered into a two dimensional world map.

“I am interested in the idea that products have this grandiose sense to them,” Turk says, with more than a little enthusiasm.” they advertise themselves as noble or worthy with crests or traditional typefaces- but any team is often more sensitive and thought about than products contained within.” the irony, he continues, is that once the project has been consumed, the packaging is just discarded as if it wasn't that which was desired in the first place.” on the whole, most packaging is opaque,” he says.” you can't see the product and have to trust its what you want.”

Turk had been working on this map concept long before Suzanne and Christopher Sharp - the architects of this tapestry project - invited him to take part. Founders of new visual arts commissioning organisation banners of persuasion, the sharks are probably better known as the couples who set up the rug company. It was in this capacity that they noticed when people really loved a rug, they’d sometimes hang it on their wall, the way people used to prise tapestries, and so they thought they’d revitalise interior decorating in a big way. It took some revitalising - while the Normans may have had the skills, tapestry is something of a dead art now, especially in Britain.

Yet even though the designs had to be sent to China to be created, it seems appropriate that tapestry is reworking itself back into the design consciousness: the V & A´s craft exhibition, out of the ordinary, last year showed that the arts and crafts movement is gathering pace again, while the current financial climate may force people to reconsider what value ready-made culture holds. Which ties in very nicely with Gavin Turk's opinions are about disposable culture. “To take a found object, then send it to be turned into a tapestry means that you take something unwanted which has no value in al and turn it into something which is one of the most expensive bits of decorative furnishing you could possibly imagine,” he says.

And so, the rubbish that Turk found outside his studio is now rendered intricately in threat, woven in what seems to be impossibly minuscule dimensions.” when they generate the tapestry they literally have to go across this object and attribute the colour value to every square millimetre.” he says. This is what Turk liked about the process. “What I do happens fairly fast: the rubbish was crashed fairly fast and then photographed and collaged relatively quickly,” he says. “But making tapestries is a relatively slow process. While you'll see the image of the map quickly, to digests the image and understand the tapestry actually happens really slowly.”

This is true for the viewer, too. “One of the things I found looking at tapestries,” he says,” Isabel might look at it and say´ 0h I don't like that´. Other than if you can stand there first slightly longer you can get captivated and it unwinds slowly - the picture starts to appeal, starts to come into your world.” unlike statement design pieces, a tapestry is supposed to grow on the owner. ” I think one of the interesting things about tapestry is how slowly the picture comes out after picture frame,” he says. “It’s so intense. You have gone close and further away and close and further away; it's like the image slowly unweaving itself.”

The intricacies of the final product are determined by the painstaking production process, and so it is unlikely that many people will be able to afford a Gavin Turk tapestry to brighten up a “feature wall”. Parts this is something Turk has come to terms with a long time ago. “ there is quite often the fate of art - it goes to those who can afford it,” he shrugs.” it's important arts does have a market, and obviously it's lovely if you can get your work into national collections.”

It's not all about high prestige interiors pieces for Turk, though - again, it's a process that he finds important, and that process can be something that anyone can be involved in. The house of fairytales- another of Turks´ less mainstream enterprises - is a children's art project set up by Turk and his partner Deborah Curtis. It is designed to” promote the idea of old-fashioned craft-making at home within the family,” Turk says. “Doing it has resonance and meaning, it is ineffective. If everything is made industrially, then I think we lose the sense of stuff, and in a way that erodes that freedom of choice.” the idea is that no one should feel restricted when it comes to creating their environment, or hemmed in by what is available to buy.

“I’m making some kind critique of human industrialisation,” he says. “The use of products in this way probably does take over, it probably does affect the planet's balance, the land and sea.” he walks out into his main studio, and points to cushion on one of the benches, covered in old-fashioned faded striped material. Another interiors project? He motions to touch it - it's hard as rock, painted to look cosy. “This striped material was considered very risqué when was first brought out,” he laughs. And now it's their most normal, almost boring, of things.

Perhaps in the same way, his outré tapestry will one day be hanging in every living room across the land or-even better-maybe takes ideas behind it will be commonplace. It's not Turk's mission statement- he's onto the next thing (dressing up as a fortuneteller, in New York, if you must know) - but that's wouldn't be a bad interiors revolution and all.

Demons, Yarns & Tales exhibition,
To 22 November, the Dairy,
London WC1 (020 -- 7243 7345;
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